2k8FARNHILL2k8 (
Because in ww2 when we were telling you good ideas you didnt do what we told you to do and you took your own ideas and did what you wanted and you got yourself more casualties.
suryavajra
so what were these supposedly good ideas??
2k8FARNHILL2k8
Well, watch war documentaries and you shall gind out.
2k8FARNHILL2k8
find*
suryavajra
I've watched lots of documentaries and nowhere did it say that the Brits had a different idea that was better, but was rejected. More often than not the British and Americans would come to a concensus...
So you're gonna have to be specific here..
2k8FARNHILL2k8
Okay, it was i think 1943 or something and we were heading for rome and we told you to go come of italy and sail to rome, but instead you went straight through to the city going through mountains and u ended up with severe casualities
suryavajra
I'll do some research on that...
suryavajra
Sure...but remember, after the war you were smart to realize that you were not strong enough to hold on to the Empire, and thus discretion was the better part of valor.
2k8FARNHILL2k8
well, didn't the Roman empire do the same? That started to collapse aswell very rapidly. well we were only a small nation holding onto 3 quatres of the world, i dont think were that good to keep that much
suryavajra
The Romans didnot dismantle their Empire though.
Yes, they divided into two. but aftrer that the Western Half splintered from Barbarian raids. Only the Eastern Half remained.
Again you couldn't have kept it even if you wanted to. The West commited suicide not just once, but twice in one generation.
2k8FARNHILL2k8
Well our empire lasted for over 100 years, i think we deserved a break, maybe we couldnt keep it up because it was hard work, especially against the Zulus, and up against you and the french. The Romans just left us and everything fell apart, we've even done it in history
suryavajra
don't forget about the Boers. They held out against superior British forces for years...
Remember your economy was in ruins after the war. You didn't just need a break, you needed cardiac ressucitation. in any case, the cost of keeping the Empire with restless opposition within most of the colonies including some Dominions far outwieghed the benefits. Thus you HAD to dismantle. Within a generation most of the major territories were gone.
2k8FARNHILL2k8
But we still had it 4 over 100 years so its something
suryavajra
a moment in the vastness of time...
2k8FARNHILL2k8
Well you haven't even had an empire in the first thing
yetiman101
Hey I remember "debating" with you about the B. Empire about a month ago, but you're still Brit bashing! Dude , whats going on?
suryavajra
hey yetiman! How are you doin'?? Yep I'm still here debating. Hey, I may be anti-Empire but I'm not anti-British... Big difference between the two, my friend. LOL!
yetiman101
I'm doing fine thanks. How is it in Sunny California? If I mute the vid from about halfway on, its like a tribute to the British Empire!
D0NEIT4THELULZ
You're refering to the American general Mark Clark, who ignored his commanding officer, the British General Harold Alexander, in the invasion of Italy and marched American troops into Rome, which as a result, meant they failed to exploit the gap following the defeat of Germany in Monte Cassino, allowing a substantial number of German troops to escape and reinforce at the Gothic Line.
Usual glory hunting American way, shoot first think later.
suryavajra
Well the Pope didn't think so....LOL!!
The Pope actually thanks Mark Clark for libverating Rome. Atleast there is somone out there who appreciated us...LOL!
suryavajra
Nice and sunny. Getting into the hot summer months..LOL!
yetiman101
Ace, it's nice here too. You know what they say "the sun never sets on the British Empire"!
suryavajra
That's good.
Doesn't the sun set in parts of Africa, where there are no holdings?
yetiman101
It is a scientific fact that the sun sets everywhere :)
suryavajra
not so...the Arctic and Antarctic duirng their repsective summer months. LOL!
yetiman101
Ha very true ! Didnt think of that
dadecountyhustler305
Ya u are jelouse because it burns ur ass that one of your former colonies defeated you and then took over your global rule on earth. And the British know it and it burns there ass. Thats why its so fashionable to make fun of americans. And not black people, asians, etc.
And besides a wasn't refering to the British when I said jelouse. I was refering to the world in a more "global" sense.
2k8FARNHILL2k8
If your going to act all smart then use proper words so i can understand you, not like "ya" + "u". You didnt defeat us, you kicked us out, even your own people came onto our side, take over our global rule? What are you on about? You also had help of the French to kick us out and it took over 100 years to do so. What are you on about asians and black people? We gave you them as slaves and you bought them of us. We had Hong Kong for decades and we gave it back to the Chineses in 1999.
2k8FARNHILL2k8
Ahahahahahahah very funny aren't you with your friend? Your point being about these comments? Anyway, its not like you've had an Empire.
jamieb48
You deny the counter-invasion was led by a British army? you're suggesting we tried to occupy Spain ourselves perhaps? Of course other countries were involved but without Britains input I suspect Europe would look very different today.
Fix my teeth, funny....wash your greasy hair.
suryavajra
Nor would I want one. That is the difference between you and myself.
I've been known to have a sense of humor.
jamieb48
I'm not particularly bothered by the authors comments as I'm rather proud of my nations history.
I find it strange and a bit offensive that it's written by an American, I would have thought rather than worrying about our past he should be more concerned with his countries present. There you go pal, next book idea for ya if your interested...
metabollica
child labour existed long long long long LONG before the british empire. America shouldnt say shit about britain taking over india and australia? Get the fuck off shooting at women and children as you do every single time you start a fucking war against weaker and crippled countries you cant win against. If i'd see this guy in real life i'd kill him.
suryavajra
why don't you chill metabollica...and take the joke at it is,
And yes we can talk about Australia and India...
AConcernedBlogger
The commentator's comments are funny and he knows that they aren't true and is being satirical. The author of the 'book' however actually beleives these things.
suryavajra
Aren't they one in the same?? But I don;t even think the author is all the way serious...
AConcernedBlogger
See his other videos. This speaker has a different voice from the author, who is a bald bigot called Steven Grasse. Look on the one where he is invited to the Richard and Judy Show.
suryavajra
Yeah, I saw all the vids...
Somehow the voices seemed similar. But you really think Grasse is being serious??
AConcernedBlogger
Yes. I mean, he wants to shove all the blame on the UK because we founded the USA and everyone blames the USA for making the world shit. He even admits it.
AConcernedBlogger
The British at the time didn't actually care that much that the 13 colonies won independance with the help of the Spanish and French, that's why they didn't send their army to take it back. The Americans haven't taken over global rule, we gave the countries back their independance after WW2 because we promised we would and they fought for us. I'm not sore that there is such thing as the USA but what annoys me is that there are xenophobic people like you and the author.
suryavajra
if you're not sure that there's a USA, you got issues, pal...LOL!
AConcernedBlogger
no I said SORE not SURE. This guy is saying thatt he hates Britain for existing, and I don't hate USA for existing.
suryavajra
Yeah..it mist have been late at night when I replied to your comment..LOL!
It's the same with me. I don't hate Britain for existing, and wish the British people good luck and prosperity for the future.
That being said, I'm don't think Steven Grasse hates Britain for existing. Infact I dont even think he's being serious.
JamTheMan4Chelsea
Its easy to say 'take the joke', but its sick humour, most of which is false. Three quarters of the book is basically 'we only jumped of the cliff cuz these guys did'. Well, here's another one 'who's more foolish? The fool or the fool who follows him? The guy who narrates is constantly cartooning us in a bad light, yet if you look at his abomination of a bald face, he is a ridiculous hypocrite. We (I) would never do this, nor to the US, its a ridiculous life, examing the faults of others...
metabollica
If i would joke about 9/11 the war in Iraq or vietnam do you think any american would ''chill''? No i dont, why should i simply take that while you pile shit upon my ancestors country without any respect or political facts that's actually true?
suryavajra
Except the man doesn't joke about the terrorist attacks on Great Britain, so the parallels are lost on me...
By the way, don't you guys expect Americans to laugh when you tell us how our schools are supposedly near collapse?? or that we are all fat and overweight from Maccy D's?? or how Amercians cannot find (insert location) on a globe?? That's why i say chill. We have been the butt of Europe's jokes, and finally there's an American making jokes of his own.
metabollica
Should be added: Austria,Russia,France and Spain would had attacked brittain if they hadnt retreated. There was no reason to send soldiers on the other side of the globe when they were much more needed in Europe. The whole world had to unite against brittain to make it let go of USA.
suryavajra
Well I think that most of that had to do with the fact that these powers were still steaming mad after the Seven Year's War. So they were more than happy to support a successful rebellion in the New World...
lvcivs11
im american by birth and saxon by the grace of god when u piss on the bones of my ancestors it is not a joke fuck the yankee scum who made this and god save the queen
suryavajra
If you're American by birth, are you not a Yank yourself???
And I'd like to ask, in what way is this guy pissing on the bones fo your ancestors??